what offers better protection?

[aneldefogo]

this combo

- Front Axle Protectors MT-07

- rear Axle Protectors MT-07

or

-Side Sliders MT-07

my dealer says the side sliders offer better protection ...what do you think .. the price is the same for combo or side sliders
thks and regards from Portugal

 

[Ralph]

Would think the side sliders in protecting the engine are protecting the
most expensive bit.

 

[Deleted member 20]

I would say:

Yamaha engine slider offer good protection of the important lower engine, but does nothing for radiator/tank. And the slider is very expensive.
SW Motech frame slider offer good protection of bike side, possibly not enough for lower parts of engine, also pretty expensive but not as bad as the Yamaha.
Combining Yamaha and SW Motech engine slides is probably very good combo, but then I would rather wait for some one to offer a complete tubular steel engine guard, at decent price.

Yamaha axle sliders are silly expensive, and not even good lookin. You can get same protection, better looks and fraction of the cost using some clever black skateboard wheels I saw in another thread some days ago.

 

[Tamura]

Hi everyone,

I've just installed SW-Motech sliders (bit.ly), bought them for 139,95euro here : bit.ly

Photos: https://www.dropbox.com/sc/tgkd73gxi4ippur/AAB7MuhQL1VyJQGEGoak5f_la

Earlier I also installed Evotech Onwards Front and Rear Fork Spindle Bobbins, boutght them directly from the producer: bit.ly

Photos: https://www.dropbox.com/sc/ojcjbzr1vz6hmxl/AABsfzjhuzN_PMFQTO1l7cida

So far I am very satisfied with both products in terms of style and perceived quality. Hope they are as strong&reliable as they look.

However, as And30ers rightly said, I am thinking about additional protection of the lower part of the engine. So far the choice is either Yama original side sliders (http://bit.ly/1qr4slr) or RG-Racing Engine Case Covers (http://bit.ly/1AyIqVa and http://bit.ly/1AyIvrL)

 

[bram-bram]

Got myself a pair of crash bobbins like the ones in the picture. The reason was mostly to cover those ugly frame holes, but I find them very comfortable to hold my legs straight on them for stretching after riding for a while. I also like the looks on cruiser riders faces when I pass them by with my legs in a similar position

 

[Alex_AC]

Hi everyone,

I've just installed SW-Motech sliders (bit.ly), bought them for 139,95euro here : bit.ly

Photos: https://www.dropbox.com/sc/tgkd73gxi4ippur/AAB7MuhQL1VyJQGEGoak5f_la

Earlier I also installed Evotech Onwards Front and Rear Fork Spindle Bobbins, boutght them directly from the producer: bit.ly

Photos: https://www.dropbox.com/sc/ojcjbzr1vz6hmxl/AABsfzjhuzN_PMFQTO1l7cida

So far I am very satisfied with both products in terms of style and perceived quality. Hope they are as strong&reliable as they look.

However, as And30ers rightly said, I am thinking about additional protection of the lower part of the engine. So far the choice is either Yama original side sliders (http://bit.ly/1qr4slr) or RG-Racing Engine Case Covers (http://bit.ly/1AyIqVa and http://bit.ly/1AyIvrL)

wow, i like those SW-Motech sliders. They are expensive but look good and solid ...

 

[hahapik]

These seem to offer a compromise between SW Motec and the Yamaha sliders. Thanks to the little piece which extends it down, from the frame hole:





But THE PRICE............ 211,50 €

Top Block sliders

 

[bram-bram]

Got myself a pair of crash bobbins like the ones in the picture. The reason was mostly to cover those ugly frame holes, but I find them very comfortable to hold my legs straight on them for stretching after riding for a while. I also like the looks on cruiser riders faces when I pass them by with my legs in a similar position

Unfortunately I have put them to test They work Done an excellent job protecting the bike, regardless of the fact that Yamaha insurance decided to buy me a new bike instead of fixing the one I crashed.

 

[Donut]

Unfortunately I have put them to test They work Done an excellent job protecting the bike, regardless of the fact that Yamaha insurance decided to buy me a new bike instead of fixing the one I crashed.

The important bit is that you're ok to tell us about this.

 

[gregjet]

The lower sliders in the first picture are good enough to get through a race machinery inspection in Australia. ALL motorcycles racing on the track in Australia are required to have reinforced engine side covers/a cover capable of sustaining a grinding fall on any part of the engine that could allow the escape of oil. These would work as a slider and case protection so i like em.

 

[loneranger]

bought mine on eBay and bought a sticker to add to look

 

[nobull]

For what its worth I think almost all of these sliders are likely to cause as many problems as they prevent in the event of a crash - I've crashed a lot of bikes racing, metalworking is a hobby & I fix broken bones for a living. I like the fork & swingarm protectors, these have caused me no issues in the past. Main frame protectors - even when not installed into the chassis via tubular steel these can be a bitch to get off after a crash, they bend upto 45 degrees in a crash, the bolt heads often get ground off a bit so a socket/spanner wont go on. WHen they are wound out (sometimes with great difficulty) they destroy everything in a 3 inch radius, & will definitely have the potential to bend the tubular steel in a crash, & without doubt will remove the paint/powder coat. The only engine case protectors I've used that crash well (including R&G) are the GB moto ones (v well designed) or nrc case replacements, neither of which are available for the mt as far as I know. Anything bolted to the engine with a stand off or potential for leverage, like most of those above, may sheer bolts off - this is a nightmare & not as easy to drill out or repair as most media would have you believe. Hardened steel is virtually impossible to drill out accurately even with very good tools. I will begetting axle protectors, & nothing else - i'd rather replace a tank cover at £100 than a frame!

 

[bram-bram]

I've noticed the crash bobbins Yamaha installed on the motocage version. I like the fact that they have been designed to spin freely, which should minimize considerably the lateral forces transferred to the frame in slides.
I will try to take pictures of the one I shaved. The frame's tube doesn't seem to be affected at all, but you cannot tell accurately without measurements.

 

[bram-bram]

As this bike no longer belongs to me, I didn't care to unscrew and see what exactly got bent, the plastic or the screw. I wouldn't buy no-names, untested, bobbins from e-bay. The plastic might be so hard that it might properly bend your bike's frame. They need to be tested by the manufacturer.

My conclusion is that these protection products work and are very very practical, despite all theories regarding damage that they might cause. If you fall at speed on clean asphalt, they will not rip anything off your bike. If you just drop your bike when standing or going walking speed, they will protect your bike perfectly.
The only case where it can cause damage is if you slide on an uneven surface or if you slide outside the road. This particular case will f*ck your bike up regardless of the bobbins, so it does not matter. I also believe it's the type of accident which happens less often.

Best of luck!

 

[gregjet]

NoBull has a good point. Seen plenty of sliders bend frames and crack engine cases with twisting forces. You do have to ask if in the case ( sorry) of such damage whether without the sliders , it would have been worse. I have found, as previously noted here, that designs that allow the slider to rotate definitely are less likely to bend anything. Still the ones that use the engine case bolts are a bit of a worry as the MT07 engine bolt case threads are definitely a bit soft . Mine was stripped on the left side when I got the bike. Now has a helicoil.

 

[Gee]

Wouldn't have thought there would be too much torsional forces involved on the bolts as behind what you can see (the plastic bobbin), there is a large metal collet which is just smaller than the diameter of the hole in the frame. Well, there is on mine.

Anyway, would rather have them than not, just my opinion tho. As they say.......you pays ya money, you takes ya chances.